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Someone, who calls himself Proud Christian wrote on this website some comments.

Comments which do not approve neither of me, Max Nadel nor of what I propagate in Nesseq.
It is a sin against god! So sayeth the Proud Christian. And many more think like him, I’m sure.

In his comments, this reader also denies evolution. This is no trifle matter, since there is no evolution nothing changes in nature and so the climate can’t change as well!

All those who base their believe on some books, which they regard as holy, have to answer why the Doppler Redshift effect tells us differently.

According to the Redshift the universe is expanding! Therefore the universe is not static and so is our Solar system and earth.

The bible tells us that god created the world in six days and that he rested on the seventh day. So we all live now on the 8th day and nothing changes.

There were no fluctuations in climate the last 2000 years, no volcano activities that gave birth to new islands. The bones of the Dinosaurs can’t be explained by religion, so therefore they must be fake. The list of inconsistencies between reality and the good books are endless and it would be futile to discuss it with religious fundamentalists.

But even religious fundamentalists must bear in mind, that there is more between heaven and earth than what is written in any of the books.

What if there is, what is called, evolution? What if we do not live in the 8th day, but in on of the six days before god rested?

Nothing can be taken for granted, so a Climate Change is possible. Beside this theoretical dispute, everyone of us has to bear in mind that, if god has worked for 6 days to create the world as we know it, than it is up to us to preserve the divine creation.

Just to rely on books which have been written thousands of years ago, when the wonders of physics were virtually unknown and the world was really perceived as static and unchanging is nonsense.

What are those people going to do if they will stand in front of the creator and the divine being will ask them, why they let the creation go to hell?

All religious people have to be at the fore front of those who want to fight Climate Change!

I have to stress, that with age I am willing to believe in god, but I am not willing to believe in any book. Especially since the book has to be studied profoundly and I have, like the majority of people, no inclination to do so. So I have to rely on the definitions the scholars are offering me. This means in the end that I do not believe in god but only in a book.

And not even in a book but in someone who explains it to me. One last thought, it is commonly accepted, that where there is nothing, nothing can come out of it.

If this is so, where is the something that lets our minds and souls thrive?

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  1. Ashraf Bastowrus Zakarea

    Why did you left christinit​y ? I want to know more about your Experience i am from Sudan and need to Expand my Experience in this matter.

    • Admin (Max)

      Dear Ashraf,
      I am glad to have visitors from Sudan. I was never a Christian, I grew up without religion. And I’m glad about it. It helped me to see human beings not as the center of life. For me God created the universe in his image and the earth is on of the crowns of creation. And human beings are just a jewel in the crown. We have to understand, that we are only part of the whole organism earth. And we are dependent on earth and not earth depending on us.
      If you want to write to me in private, please use the Contact Us button at the bottom of the home page.
      All the best,

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  24. Mark

    Hello Dear Dr. Max.

    We Love you, When it comes to prayer, are you often at a loss for words? Do your supplications lack power? Are you longing for the renewal of mind that the Bible promises?

    Listen to God’s Word and you’ll begin to transform your heart and overcome spiritual strongholds.

    Turn this site to a Bible site, and follow us. Stop attacking your brothers and sisters. come back to us.

    Remember Always : “Jesus Loves You”

    Read the bible, and listen to your soul, Listen to the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners and the happiness of believers.

    Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable. Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy.

    It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you. It is the travelers map, the pilgrims staff, the pilots compass, the soldiers sword, and the Christians character. Here paradise is restored, Heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed.

    Christ is its grand object, our good is its design, and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet.

    Read it slowly, frequently, and prayerfully. It is given you in life and will be opened in the judgement and will be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, will reward the greatest labour, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

    Your Brother.

    Mark H.
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    San Jose, CA US

    • Admin (Max)

      Dear Mark,
      Thank you for your comment. But I will not turn my web site into something religious. As I already stated, I will let god judge me and not man. I don’t believe, that god needs books to communicate with people. If one listens to his heart, one might hear god speak to him. And god spoke to me and said: Do everything in your power to preserve my creation. Not man is the center of life on earth but life is!
      Enough said with this. I will not approve of anymore religious comments anymore, as entertaining as they are. The task of Nesseq is to show ways how to fight, and to survive, a possible Climate Change.
      Thank you again,

      • Hand of the Angels

        Your youtube film is sick, how dare you talk about religion like this, you are not funny, you are a loser.

  25. Gabriel

    Your soul will rot in Hell Devil Max, you know who you are! Devil Slave.

    The Bible is stronger than your poison.

  26. Father Ryan

    Listen to me and open your EARS very good :

    “The LORD is my light and my salvation- whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life- of whom shall I be afraid?”
    Psalm 27:1

    Max Nadel and George Carlin will go to hell, i can see your souls is burning right now, flames, fire, i can see it in my eyes, i can smell your stinky flesh, and god will have NO mercies on your damned souls.

    I am shocked to see this youtube film, how dare you showing this to the world, i am praying : “your soul to suffer in this life and the other”. you will be in chruch prayer, you are the devil messenger.

    soon you will feel my prayers hit and strike you.

    “The name of the LORD is a strong tower, the righteous run to it and are safe.”
    Proverbs 18:10

    Father Ryan.

    • Admin (Max)

      Thank you very much Father Ryan. It is good to know that you care so much for the well being of my eternal soul.
      Butt answer me one question, where is it written, that we, human beings, should preserve the creation of god? Nowhere? Therefore we do not have to do it. Is this your conclusion?
      It is certainly not mine. After I die, I will take all my sins and lay them down in front of the Lord, or the Lady, and will let the divine being decide. You are in no position to throw the first stone.
      Thank you again,
      Max Nadel

      • Father Ryan

        I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

        Wait for the signs Max, they are coming ………….

        • Admin (Max)

          Thanks again Father Ryan!

          • Father Ryan

            I am going to make a special prayer only for “George Carlin and Max Nadel” in my church, and the LORD is listening to me. I will make you cry and beg for the the tiny drop of mercy from the LORD.

            “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

    • Barrie

      Dear Admin : “Please don’t censor this”

      This SH**T is funny !! lol lol lol

      What the hell is matter with you “DAD RYAN” i mean FATHER RYAN, or LORD RYAN ?? are you god second in command ?

      You seems like a sadistic motherf**er, oppps !! you need a gun, big one, so you can : “bam bam bam, you are sinner”

      • Admin (Max)

        I agree with you, that’s why I approve of the comments of Father Ryan.
        As I said, I leave it to God to judge me, not a religious fundamentalist.

      • Father Ryan

        You also going to HELL.

        “I will sweep away everything in all your land,” says the LORD. “I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die.

        I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity,” says the LORD. “I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.

        I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear.

        For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them!

        And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD’s guidance or seek my blessings.”

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  41. Rev. Dwayne Hayford

    Dr. Max, I believe that I am expressing the Lord’s heart. He loves you so much, and He is all about picking us up and getting us on track again. I am and will continue to keep you in my heart and prayers.

    I really believe that the Lord is not through using you, and I
    pray that you can make steps to not only get back on track, but enter into an unimaginably full life going from here on out.

    We all have made mistakes, and I want you to know that I care for you and am praying for you. I can only begin to imagine what this is like for you. I want you to know that the Lord loves you and He can turn this thing around.

    Remember Jesus’ ministry to Peter!

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    We share a very deep reverence for life on earth, whether that life was created by God or evolved over billions of years, it exists, is sacred to all of us, and is being endangered by human activity.

  43. Beck Ugenz

    The war on Christianity in America isn’t new. Prayer in schools and public displays of Judeo-Christian symbols have been restricted by the government for years. Christians are frequently lampooned by Hollywood in movies and on television.

    Churches are targeted by militant homosexual activists. Christian views are rejected in campus classrooms across the country. But rarely do we see news of Christians lashing out irrationally in response to these injustices, much less to the general rejection of their beliefs by secular elites.

  44. Benny Koger

    There’s an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there’s a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all.

    In other words, we have poisoned pristine Earth through technological advance and will ultimately be punished by Mother Nature (rather than Father God) for our brazen selfishness.

  45. Grindof

    God will not and never forgive you for your sins, you keep fighting religions and faith with theories made by Satan and pure evil, the right path you know and you can see clearly but you choose to ignore it and following your demons with your theories and climate change bla bla bla.

    Dr. Max …. Keep in mind that god can strike you with his powers any time and place, jesus is calling your name and he might save you if you decide which way to take ? God way or Max way.

    • Benny Koger

      Rather than Christians, the global warming faithful are actually more akin to another religious group that does lash out “viciously and irrationally” to those who challenge their “science”-based views: neo-Darwinian evolutionists. And while observers such as Plimer may prefer to compare climate alarmists with Christians, only the theories of the former are being pushed by the media and academic establishment as an undisputed, scientifically based lens through which man and the universe are interpreted – much like neo-Darwinian evolution.

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